The
politics around Destination Recordings…
(consuming,
producing, selling, ad executives, marketing)
As
you're doing this label you must get people to consume your releases and there
we find the enormous opposition about doing a label and still being very
left-winged, radical and anti-capitalistic. We'll try to settle things out,
trying to explain our means and our deeds that we want to do with the label.
This is not just about music.
Getting
hooked up by us?
From now on we will only release music with groups being revolutionaries,
interested in the analysis around radicalism and we will only release music that
we view as potential material to be exhibits of revolution.
As
capitalism is based on excessive consumption and suburb pieces to make the
crises you'll also see the great opposition by doing a record-label releasing
music for people just to consume? This is a great contradiction isn't it?
Definitely it is a contradiction, but also we recognize the fact that we
can affect a lot of people by running this record-label. The fact that the
capitalist system is based on the prediction that the world will expand in size
by making perpetual suburbs for us to buy, to get a share of the power, the
access and the right to speak, vote and listen we believe that we shall take
part in some activities to survive and fight to attain our visions. As the
concept of "revolution" actually must be sold, due to the fact that we
live in a consumerist culture we take our chance to affect and keep on
propagating for revolution and passion in our everyday life. As we don't direct
work upon people, bossing around people working 9-5 we don't recognize any kind
of substance of the regular "business structure" we see in the rest of
society. We are an anti-hierarchical organization. You have to sell your stuff
In order to stay alive and to keep on releasing potent and dangerous music.
We
want you to be able to control the medium you choose, and we want to ensure that
the medium isn't controlling you. As a lot of products and traditions are based
on in the rest of the society.
This will always contain a bit of contradiction, but we will all fight to
attain our desires and
we chose this medium to spread a lot of revolutionary material.
What about doing ads? Advertising to make people consume your records
unknowingly to what it is they're buying?
Basically what we are trying
to do with the ads is to explain the meaning with the band, the music or simply
their politics and means to change. We are not planning to make any kind of
slogan-inspired "this is what you must have to feel happy and
satisfied" - HC record. We want to make a difference with our flyers, as we
know they'll appear in some zines once in a while. We are not trying to seduce
people to buy our records as products, we are trying to affect people by text
masses and rhetorical visions where we visualize our means and possible deeds
made out by this record-label. To do an ad is to make people see what you're
about and absolutely not to use fancy slogans as "this will make your blood
go faster shit" - that we made before…
You
will not advertise a band with slogans and meanings that they do not truly stand
behind, right?
That's
right. We will not promote a band as "feminists" or
"revolutionaries" if they do not consider themselves as ones. We will
not promote any kind of fake projection and vision of what it really isn't,
truly. That would be to trick people into consume the new and fresh record,
without even thinking about the consequences it might will have to his/her life.
We want people to have the ability of controlling the medium they chose. We
don't want the medium to control them.
Are
you one of those simplistic people declaring that punkrock music will change the
world?
We do believe that music can raise interest, affect people very seriously
and make people think about different topics that we want to elevate by doing
this label. We don't think that fast and rocky music necessarily will cause
overthrowing of the government or any other kind of action in itself, but sure
we can illuminate various topics that we might think are interesting and
sometimes also necessary to affect people's lives, direct and precise. Of course
we have long-term goals, but for now we can only aim for the short-term goals,
and that's about releasing politically challenging music to the status quo. We
can proclaim that some music does have more political stance than others have,
and by that we want to say that we definitely are interested in releasing music
also not just because of political lyrics but because of the members in the band
being politically active, either if that does mean through lyrics or action.
Punkrock will not change the world through the music itself, but we believe that
the music can act catalyst for discussion, debate and action, which is pretty
much essential for any kind of change on this planet, right? We believe that the
punkrock/HC community is filled with a lot of potential and revolutionary ideas.
Do
you do anything else with the label, but releasing music?
We do see the that the punkrock/HC community often restrict itself to
buying punkrock music, consuming fancy slogans through merchandize and plates
and other kind of idolizationized material. We believe that we could do a lot
more than doing this label, writing articles and having lectures. That's why we
have started distributing pamphlets with concrete ideas concerning Socialism,
Marxism, everyday life and revolution. We do think that a lot of people in this
community use their political potentials in writing incomprehensible so-called
intellectual articles. We use a lot of complicated words, explanations to assert
our own potential instead of elucidating our real means and proposition for
deeds. We believe that we need to arrange more argument collections. Pamphlets
with questions and answers we usually face in everyday life as potential
revolutionaries, vegans or drugfree. We need to make more understandable text
masses with more specific explanations and exactly what do we want with this
world. Not just, what do we not want with this world. We need concrete
argumentation back-ups so that we can rhetorically develop more discussions.
What we can do is using historical argumentation, that we directly can use to
overcome the subject. What we can do is to train ourselves to become potential
speakers, studying rhetoric.
We need to talk more than writing. Discussing our ideas and visions with
one another more than we do today. Destination recordings will from now on
always proclaim not be a label just about music and potential beats and rhythms.
We will start distributing books, pamphlets for free, argumentation pamphlets,
analysis of political happenings, philosophy and action. We'll not just
distribute pamphlets that people within the Destination collective writes, we'll
also distribute other collective's material and also writings and analysis that
we do agree with or at least believe are necessary to bring forward in this
community. So make your contribution and send it in to us and we might publish
it and distribute it for you. We will not sign to any kind of ideology or
"faith" bringing term, we distribute any kind material we consider
having a big revolutionary potential, Syndicalism, Marxism, Socialism,
Communism, Anarchism, Feminism, Anti-fascism and Animal Right propagating. We
believe that a lot of those ideas together have a big and potential meaning for
the whole revolutionary movement. We'll not sign on officially to any kind of
ideology and we'll not restrict ourselves by distributing only for example
anarchistic literature.
How
do you produce your releases and how do you sell it?
We let the band enter the studio and then we discuss within the
collective how we're gonna perceptibly promote this release without leaving the
truth. We read stuff that the band has produced and then we write something
suggesting what the band is about, latter on we send it to the band and then
they reflect. If they think something is untrue, we'll change it and they'll
make their notes and then we can see the precise picture of their political
stance and vision. We sell our releases through DIY distributing worldwide. This
is a hard way of working a lot of those distros aren't really true and they'll
rip us off. We will not in any way romanticize this movement and we do declare
that there are untrue and hypocritically people within this community as well.
This is why we also deal with stores selling punkrock/HC music, that we know can
bring economical advantage to us. We must work this way, because we are aware of
the fact that we live in a capitalist consumerist culture that we actually must
obey in some ways to survive in this world. The pamphlets we distribute cost
nothing, due to the fact that we buy the culture when we distribute our music.
We do always question these contradictions and we'll always work for the
solution, but as it is for now we admit our paradoxes, through claiming
something and then do something else. Thus we are against the whole consumerist
culture, but still we must work by it, unfortunately.
Thank you.