__________________________________________________________________ Issue 762 -- Wednesday, January 26, 2000 _________________________ STICKY FINGERS JOURNAL _________________________ e-mail: SFJ@StickyFingersJournal.com web site: http//www:StickyFingersJournal.com For a free e-mail subscription to the Sticky Fingers Journal send an e-mail to: SFJ@StickyFingersJournal.com in the subject write "subscribe" followed by your e-mail address. --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Dum714@aol.com Subject: Saint of Me I was driving truck about 3,000 miles a week.Hadn't been home too much. Living in the Philly area we get piss-poor radio cause it's hard to get NYC.They have one or two stations here that repeat top 40 anything.The Bridges to Babylon was out but with only a radio in my truck I didn't hear much of it.Then one night driving to Richmond Va. in a heavy downpour for 300miles I became ragged real quick, thinking about getting that monkey off my back for good, I pulled up to my stop about 11:00. Being pissed at myself for having backed my ass up to no return I could only sit there and listen to Sweet Virginia music.And then it came on.You know that feeling you get when the Govenor says; you've been pardoned. I had something akin to spiritual rebirth.Hearing " Saint" for the first time was like St. Michael grabbed me by the throat, started shaking me and said get off the Horse and go straight.Needless to say it was the beginning of cleaning my act up.Alot of events occured in my life following that night and today I am clean. This may seem trivial to some but after 30+ years of addiction only certain people will understand.I don't know if you understand but I'm sure you know the power of music since you are a Stones fan.Pam, never underestimate what can be done with music, the spirit in us and the good kharma in all of us.Thanks for being there in cyber world, hope to hear anything you have to say. P.S. I did see the Stones on the tour and when Kef and Woody were playing the last bit of that song it really did sound like St. Michael crying to me.Yes, my name is Michael. Coincidence? Who knows.Maybe only Mick and me. HAPPY, Michael Sz. Camden N.J. --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: "Christopher Marianczak" > Subject: Solid Rock I went into a shop the other day and found a second hand copy of a Stones tape called Solid Rock. I bought it, it was released by London Records and this is the track listing: Side A 1. Carol 2. Route 66 3. Fortune Teller 4. I Wanna Be Your Man 5. Poison Ivy 6. Not Fade Away 7. Satisfaction 8. Get Off Of My Cloud Side B 1. Jumping Jack Flash 2. Connection 3. All Sold Out 4. Citadel 5. Parachute Woman 6. Live With Me 7. Honky Tonk Women All of side A plus JJF are mono recordings. The resta re in stereo. Can anyone give me any information on this like when it was released, whether it's official etc. Before i saw it in the shop i had never even heard of it before let alone seen it anywhere. --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Chrisso251@aol.com Subject: Posting re-try Reprinted with no permission from Creem Jan. 1973: A contest: 1. There was a line in "Satisfaction" that everybody thought was dirty. What was it? What did everybody think it was bout? Was it? 2. What part of Mick's anatomy was severed in an accident when he was very young, critically influencing his future decision to become a Rolling Stone? 3. What does Dean Martin have to do with the Rolling Stones? 4. What is Keith's last name? 5. What was unique about the picture of the Stones on the inside of the "Thru the Past Darkly" album (this is 1969, remember?) 6. What was the name of the movie that the Stones were supposed to be making in 1966, which never materialzed? 7. Where are they now: a) Andrew Oldham b) Marianne Faithful c) Ed Sullivan 8. Which of the Stones has written a book and whqat's it about? 9. Who and whater were "The Beatles"? 10. What is "loving Cup" about? 11. If he could end the war by going down on a terminal leper, would Mick do it? 12. Have any of the Rolling Stones or their immediate associates ever advocated, say, hitting a defenseless blind cripple over the head and taking his money? If so, when and where? If not, why not? 13. On "Rocks Off" Mick claims to be troubled by: a) misogyny b) premature ejaculation c) doubt d) gout e) nocturnal emissions 14. Whey didn't the Stones play Bangladesh? a) they were busy b) they weren't asked c) they took a vote and decided to support Pakistan d) George Harrison wanted Mick to change the words to "Let's Spend the Night Together" 15. There have been many drug references in Stones songs, what is a) the Stones best drug reference & b) the most obscure? 16. What is "something happened to me yesterday" about? What pop singers, personalities and other ephemera are parodied in it? 17. What's the verse that was left out of the studio version of "Honky tonk Women" about? 18. Why did Mick & Keith call themselves "Nanker Phelge"? 19. What negro recording artist did Mick cop the most riffs from? 20. What song was played at Mick's wedding? (to Bianca) 21. Marianne once lost a baby by Mick, What song does he sing about that in? 22. What is the most outrageous thing the Stones have ever done? 23. The most chickenshit? 24. Quote complete lyrics to "Tumblin Dice". Must be absolutely accurate, but we're confused enough about 'em you can probably fool us. And don't bother consulting them lyrics sheet music books cause Mick said long ago they always get 'em assbackwards. --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Mathijs van Heteren > Subject: Stones in Review The Rotterdam Tapes (Stone Crazy SC 005 -2) The fifth and last release of probably the single most collectable label Stone Crazy, this is the worst sounding of all Stone Crazy releases, but the combination of the beautiful packaging (cardboard cover around the jewel case, with a miniature poster and numbered cardboard certificate printed, number also printed on discs, and the scarcity of the release makes it one of the most sought after titles. Wrong recording information on back cover: Disc 1: Rotterdam October 14, 1973 - 2nd. Disc 2: Rotterdam October 14, 1973. A second version exists. It has a '2nd edition' sticker on label and cardboard case. No poster and no certificate inside. The quality of the recording itself varies much. For example, Disc 2 starts off as one of the worst (but not as bad as Antwerp at least!) 1973 audience tapes, but suddenly, during Angie the quality improves to very decent. Midnight Rambler and All Down the Line are in very good quality. After Rip This Joint the quality drops again somewhat. Funny is that people who were present at the show didn't like it too much. It was too loud, the sound was really bad and the Stones weren't too inspired. Nowadays these shows are like the Holy Grail for many Stones fans! These and More reviews at: Stones in Review: ~http://home-5.worldonline.nl/~heteren/ --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Joe > Subject: Tunnel Records In regards to the posting on Tunnel Records: I, too, have purchased items that have never been shipped despite continued promises from Tunnel. I have contacted the Florida Better Business Bureau, the Florida Attorney General's Office and other "watchdog" organizations (www.fraud.org , www.ftc.gov , www.bbb.org , etc.) There is not much these groups can do except provide background information on previous complaints. If you purchased with a credit card your transaction may be protected by the Fair Credit Billing Act. Under this law, consumers have the right to dispute charges under certain circumstances and temporarily withhold payment while the creditor is investigating them. (contact the Hillsborough County Dept. of Consumer Protection in Tampa at 813-272-6750). Otherwise you can send email or faxes (813-931-3420) to Andrew Paul Castle who is the Vice-President and let him know how you feel. My advice: don't buy from this company at all. They are despicable! Joe/Denver --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: "Richard C. St.Onge" > Subject: Dirty Strangers Is anyone familiar or knowledgeable about a cd entitled "Dirty Strangers?" I found it in a Border's Books for 25 or 30 dollars but didn't buy it. The cover proclaimed performances by Keith Richards and Ron Wood none of the songs looked remotely familiar. What is this album and what is on it? Thanks, RichS --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Lindsay Dyson > Subject: Re: Keith's Blind Angel PLEASE POST: Here is the whole story, from "Keith Richards, The Biography" by Victor Bockris (p 281-2), It was the final trail 10/24/78 after Keith's arrest for possession of heroin in Toronto 2/28/77: "The verdict was: one year's probabtion, no fine, no jail; to be on good behavior; to report to his probation officer within twenty-four hours, and on various subsequent dates; to continue treatment at the Turning Point Clinic; and to give a benefit performance for the Canadian Institute for the Blind within 6 months, either by himself or with the group of his choice. "As soon as the judge made his decision legal, Richards slowly raised a clenched fist above his head, the courtroom erupted in spontanous cheers, and he left the court with the fist raised in triumphal salute. "He flew back to New York the same day and watched himself on TV. "I feel good about the sentence," he said."It's very strange..." Later he theorized that the judge had made his decision because of "the Blind Angel": "This little chick from Toronto was totally blind, but there was nothing that would stop this girl from turning up at gigs. So I'd fix her up, 'give the girl a ride,''cause I just had visions of her being run over. God knows what could happen to a blind chick on the road. This chick went to the judge's house in Toronto, personally, and she told him this simple story. And from there he figured out the way to get Canada and himself and myself out of the whole mess." Sorry, I don't have any of the details about the concert he was supposed to do, when he did and with who... but that's the Blind Angel story and how Keith got committed to doing a benefit for the blind in Canada. "She's got a mind of her own, and she use it mighty fine..." StonesCrone LD --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Chrisso251@aol.com Subject: Re: SFJ 761 SFJ@stickyfingersjournal.com writes: <> God, I remember that so well. I was supposed to be doing homework (chemistry - yuk) but no one was gonna tear me away from that TV! I was so enraged by Dean Martin's attitude - how DARE he say those awful things? Well, I was only 14. My mom would always say if I screamed at the telly, she would turn it off. Fortunately, she wasn't home that night! Its a lifelong affliction that has damaged my brain! Stoned forever - Chrisso --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: LRSTONES@aol.com Subject: Re: SFJ 761 In February/March 1975 a few months after Mick Taylor's departure from the Rolling Stones, the band was in Rotterdam, Holland recording tracks for what would become the "Black & Blue" album. With an eye towards picking a replacement Stone, they invited practically every guitarist known to the instrument to jam with them - including Jeff Beck, Peter Frampton, Wayne Perkins, Robert A. Johnson, Harvey Mandell, Leslie West, Rory Gallagher, Steve Marriott, Dave "Clem" Clempson, and the eventual winner, Ronnie Wood and a score of others. Reports circulated daily among guitar fans as to who was last seen carrying a Fender case through the Rotterdam airport, and an indecisive time was had by all. lets take a seroius look at some of these guitarist! Jeff Beck, while Jeff would have certainly been able to fill the departing Mick Taylors shoes very easily, the Stones did not really need any room for an ego as big as Mr. Becks!!! and some would speculate that Jeff would probobly not stay in the band very long if he had joined. Jeff did have a look that fit the Stones image, and a copycat Keith haircut to boot. (check out Keiths haircut on the back of 1966 live album "Got Live If You Want It", Thats Becks 1967 hair due on Keith a year before!!!!) Peter Frampton, now remember this was about 9 months before Peter's "Frampton Comes Alive" album came out, and became the biggest selling Live album in history and pushed Frampton to unbelievable new heights of fame. Frampton could have been a good replacement, as he was not known as a lead singer as much then! because he was the former lead guitarist in Humble Pie with Steve Marriott doing most of the vocals in that band, so Peter could have fit nicely with Jagger, not expecting to do any singing. Now if Frampton had joined the Stones and had never seen the sucess he enjoyed in late 75 through the rest of the seventies, he may still would have been with the band today. Today Peter is still very good, but is balding and looks a lot older thatn his boyish features. Steve Marriott, a powerhouse singer, right up there with Robert Plant, and a pretty darn good lead guitaist too, as anyone who is familier with Humble Pie can attest to. Marriott and his vocals would not have been restrainted within the bounds of the Stones, so he obviously was not the right choice, beside he was a little guy, about 5'- 6", and would have looked small along side the other Stones. Leslie West, now here is a starnge audition for sure, Leslie easily tipped the scales over 350 lbs. and had long curly/frizzy Mark Volkman (Flo & Eddy) like hair. Mick worked with Leslie on Leslies album "The Great Fatsby" (1975) and on the track "High Roller" in 1974, so I am sure Mick invited Leslie to the audition. Leslie is about the one guy that for sure would not have fit the image of the Stones. As mentioned in the first part of this post, The Rolling Stones were in the process of finding a replacement for the depated Mick Taylor who had resigned from the Stones jsy a few months bfore on December 14, 1974. Guitarist abound were auditioning for the coveted spot to be the new lead guitist in the Worlds Greatest Rock & Roll Band. The Stones had long had a keen eye on guitarist Eric Clapton. Clapton was first approached to join the Stones in 1965!!! Yes in 1965, it seems that the Mick & Keith machine had concluded that Brian Jones needed to be taken out of the band even at that early point! but at this stage it was merely an inquiry to see if Clapton was even remotely interested, and since he was happy with the Yardbird at least for that moment, Mick & Keith went back to living with the likes of Brian. Brian was a very talented musician as most of us know, but when it came to doing the hard work of writting songs, Brian would rather have been out partying with other famous rock stars of the day, and telling everyone how his band the Stones were doing! which annoyed Mick & Keith. The second time Clapton was extended an offer was in the spring of 1969, after Mick & Keith had told Brian that he was in fact sacked from the band that he started with Ian Stewart in 1962. Mick & Keith must have thought that this was the perfect time, Eric was between bands, Cream had just broken up, and Keith felt that Clapton was closer to the Stones since participating with them at the Stones "Rock & Roll Circus" in December 1968. Eric Clapton again turned down the offer, as he had the wheels already turning to join forces with Stevie Winwood & Ginger Baker in the newly created "Blind Faith". But Clapton must have felt bad about the sacking of Brian, and offered as much help as he could, by asking his close friend John Mayall, whom Clapton had done quite a lot od studio sessions with over the years and had played in his band the "Bluesbreakers" whenever John needed a guitarist and Eric was open. John Mayall was quick to offer the name of Mick Taylor a very young and unbelievable blues guitarist that he stumbled across as legend has it, one night at a high school dance somewhere in the UK, after, the guitarist Mayall had did not show up for the gig!! and a young man noticing the band having the equipment already there, asked if he could sit in with the band. Mick Taylor was that young man, he got up and sat in, and at the very least left an impression upon John Mayall, that caused him to start using Mick Taylor in studio sessions and other live gigs almost immediately. Well after Clapton told Mick Jagger about Mick Taylor, Jagger made a call to Mayall, and of course the rest is history, although I have heard that American blues guitarist Roy Buchanon has claimed for years and years that he was offered the lead guitaist spot and had turned it down (anyone out there know any more on that story?) Well in early 1975, after Mick Taylor decided to go off and play in a Jazz/Fusion band with Jack Bruce, Clapton was agin approached for the third time, and again for the third time Eric declined the offer. Now it seems Eric who had recently been rescued from the vices of the lady heroin, was back in full swing of his solo career, and did not see that he could fit the Stones into any time frame he had in the near future. Throughout the years Eric Clapton has remained very, very close to the Stones, sitting in on-stage with them at MSG in 1975, places in Europe in 1976, and even at the "Steel Wheels" PPV concert in Atlantic City, N.J. in 1989. Eric has recently made remarks, that were printed in the papers, that he was not that excited about the music the Stones were making now, and that he was not even that much a fan of the band!!!! (go figure on that one) Now after we have looked at such notible guitaist who have auditioned or were considered for the lead guitar spot in the Stones, such as Steve Marriott, Eric Clapton, Peter Frampton & Leslie West, we are down to Rory Gallagher, Dave "Clem" Clempson, Harvey Mandell, Wayne Perkins, Shuggie Otis & of course Ronnie Wood. Rory Gallagher, a very fine and hot blues lead guitarist!! he would have been an excellent continder, anyone out there more familier with Rory than I am? I don't have that much background on him, but he was a very hot player! Dave "Clem" Clempson was the lead guitarist in Humble Pie. He replaced Peter Frampton when Frampton decided to go it solo. Dave has not been heard from since Humble Pie disbanded in 1975. He did do a tour with Steve Marriott's All-Stars in 1976. Harvey Mandell, a fine blues lead player, he did get to play on some of the songs on the Black & Blue album, so he must have been a finalist on Mick & Keiths list. Image wise Harvey had a long black beard and looked more like a hillbilly on a can of Mountain Dew than one of the Rolling Stones. Wayne Perkins, another continder who ended up on a few tracks of the Black & Blue album, turned in a very fine performance of the tracks he worked on, especially "Hand Of Fate". Wayne was an American born guitarist and has done a lot of session work, and like Mick Taylor he still plays club dates, and records the occasional album. Shuggy Otis is the son of famous reggea artist Johnny Otis, now certainly being a black musician never kept one from being aquainted with the Rolling Stones, if you were capable of playing the music and enjoyed what the Stones were into and all about, it did not matter if you were black or white! Finally we arrive at Ronnie Wood! Well Keith must have went shopping for Woody right off the bat!!! as Mick Taylor quit on December 14, 1974, the very next night Keith was on stage with Rod Stewart and the Faces, at thier London concert. Keith played on several songs with Woody & Rod. I can only think that Keith had his wheels turning to get to Woody. Keith & Woody had almost been living together during the spring of 1974 while recording Woodys first solo album "I've Got My Own Album To Do". I remember reading somewhere that Keith was staying in a room over Woodys garage for the time they were working together on the songs for that album. Mick & Woody had worked together a bit to in the early part of the year, since Woody plays acoustic guitar on the working tracks of the song "It's Only Rock & Roll (but I Like It). Lary Slusser --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Stone5608@aol.com Subject: Re: SFJ 761 Lord Jim is a rolling stone ! Like all of you I am a big fan of the stones. A day doesn't pass without a thought about them and their music. I like to read too and I like classic literature. I am a big fan of Joseph Conrad. I like to read about him and I like his stories too. The other day I was reading Lord Jim and at the beginning of chapter 19 the old man had to say this about Jim "To the common mind he became known as a rolling stone . . ." I was happily surprised to read that line that Conrad wrote in 1899. I wonder how old is the metaphorical expression ? Anybody knows? Rock and Roll!!! Thierry --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: ShawnMckelvey@cs.com Subject: Re: SFJ 761 SFJ@stickyfingersjournal.com writes: > the track "Boogie > with Stu" from PHYSICAL GRAFFITI refers to (duh!) Ian Stewart. He also played on Rock and Roll fromLZ IV --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: Joan May > Subject: Ian MacLagan Dear Stickies Just a quick one to let any 'Faces' fans out there in the UK that Ian MacLagan is doing a rare one-off solo date at the Jazz Cafe in Camden, London, on Wednesday 16th February at 7:00pm. This guy was, and still is, one of the best hammond/organ/piano players of the time and I've got my tickets booked! (£10.00 from the Ticketmaster website). I'm hoping some of his old band members might turn up - ie Ronnie Wood!!! "You got ME rocking" Hannah (Ronnie's SlideBabe) --------------------SFJ-------------------- From: marcmarcus_1009@yahoo.com Subject: Nice Post From NG From: onestep > Subject: Re: BLINDED and SIGH.. why not played live more often?? Saw an interiew with Mick on this subject, and basically he said that Keith and him throw the song lists around, some songs work and some don't, but they both really need to like the songs. Like Mick loves "Undercover", and "Miss You". Keith loves the "Tumblin Dice", and "Street Fighting Man". Mick can't really stand "Street", so it was out this tour. "Almost Hear You Sigh", which is a lovely song, was mostly a Keith composistion, that Mick may have thought boring after a while, just like Mick's "Out Of Tears", may not hit the road again. I personally think they throw in a few ballads here and there to give the band, mostly Mick, a rest after a "few fast numbers". Glad they started doing songs like "Moonlight Mile", "I Got The Blues", "Just Wanna Make Love To You", "Fool To Cry", "Wild Horses", "Memory Motel", and other slower numbers, there are so many great ones to choose from. Hope they sample a couple from "Steel Wheels" next time around, Keiths "Can't Be Seen" has an excellent beat! DRSMITH666 wrote: > > 2 of the coolest songs from Steel Wheels.. only played live a handful of times. > I wonder why this is?