!!!I ALREADY HAVE A WORKING GAME, BUT I WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER COPY!!!! this is much easier to do if you have a game that requires the boot disk...then you can make a copy with almost any program out there, just make sure you are using 80 min cds for the ones that need it, some times you will need to make the smaller games fit onto a 80 min cd ( i will explain later ) i use cdrwin though open cdrwin and choose the 3rd box over on the top row "extract disk" make sure the game you want to copy is in the cd tray and you have enough space on your hard drive. save the game to a folder of your choice and hit start, cdrwin will make a cue/bin file with whatever name you gave it. once it is done you close the extract window and choose the 1st box on the top "record disk", hit the load cue sheet button find your cue, set your burn speed, and burn. copying a self boot game i have only been able to do with 2 programs disk juggler 2.x and psxcopy6.0 disk juggler first you need to make sure your burner supports multi session...one way to check is to open cdrwin goto "record disk" look at the bottom in "recording options" if you see "new session" available to you..then you are in luck if not.....you only have one hope....(later) you will need to turn off the auto insert notification to your reader and burner under the system icon in the controll panel, device tab. back to DJ open "new" and choose "copy cd from the same recorder", put the game you want to copy in the BURNER and close the tray you shouldn't have to make any other adjustments and hit start disk juggler will then make a iso image of the game, when it is done, it'll kick out the cd. put a blank cd in the burner, close the tray, and let the burner get set. once the burner is set hit start and it should copy ok...if it doesn't , then make sure you have the aspi32 driver from adaptek.com for those of you who did not have the "open new session" available...the only hope i know of is psxcopy, unfortunately it is hard to find and if anyone knows where i can get a new version of this program please let me know. psx copy to me is the "BEST" program i have on one of my burners..it will burn anything even 90% of self boot games already on cd. if you have it then open it, put your cd-rom in source and burner in destination put the game in and a blanck cd, then hit "copy" it will scan the cd then goto a screen where it asks you if you want to save it to disk then copy it check this box and hit "copy" psxcopy will then make a temp image and burn the game, it is one of the few programs that will write one session then continues on to the next... i am using a yamaha 8424ez ide drive with windows 98 (se i think) check these boxes ignore read errors raw read/ write edc/ecc i turn off burnproof set max image size to 80 min. set recording speed slidebar to copy to a temp image first and then burn. this works for almost all self booting games that i have done.